Are the Keystone cops at it again ?


This was taken from the Answer Bank Forum were someone called Churchill 123, was nicked by the keystone cops for touting.

What chance have we got when the cops try to nick touts in this manner, with no grasp of the law in which they are trying to in force.

Is it any wonder that the cops turn a blind eye to the law breaking that goes on by touts ranking up outside most venues in London,operators touting with clipboards outside most venues in London, which is creating a breeding ground for sexual predators outside these venues, because the operators drivers are standing outside on the pavement waiting for jobs touted by the man in a high vis jacket outside the venue.

We know  the cops can’t Enforce the Law because of all the above is prevalent outside most venues in London.

Or IS there a bigger picture? or are they being held back by the courts? 

It now seem’s that something that was put in place (satellite offices)  to help the public get home safely, is now having the reversed effect.

54% rise in sexual assaults in London 2010.

If this post is true and we have no reason to disbelieve this post has it is a legal site, where other posters are legal reps in one way or other,  the Keystone Cops are a long way off to sorting this mess out .

The AnswerBank

I was charged with taxi touting last week. I was walking towards my car when a man pretending to be lost approached me whilst i was waiting to cross the rd towards my parked car. I asked him if he was ok as he looked lost and confused. He said he was lost as he was not from the area and that he was trying to get to his hotel in kings cross , london. I pointed out to him he was walking in the opposite direction and that he had to walk the other way to get to kings cross stn. He seemed genuinely lost. As i was going past kings x stn on my way home and it was only 500 metres away i said to him il drop him off there where he can get his bearings again and find his way from there as he claimed he would. No mention of any reward or money was made by anyone. I was going to do it as a act of kindness. I like to think if i was in a large city like london and was lost being from another area someone would direct me and help me like i was willing to do. Anyway as we walked towards my car he pulled out a warrant card and identified himself to be a policeman. He arrested me, handcuffed me, and placed me at the back seat of my car. He then prepared a statement on the roadside and asked me to sign it, which i refused. We then went to police stn and interview was conducted. In interview we contradicted each other as to who approached who. Also i asked him to confirm if i had asked for any money or did he offer any money in return for a lift. He confirmed i NEVER. He also confirmed that he DID say he was lost and was looking to get to kings cross. I was still charged with taxi touting. After interview he changed in his behaviour towards me. Pre interview he was cocky, confident and friendly. Post interview hee was seething because i asked him if money was involved in our convos. Presumably no money or reward=no touting or very difficult to prove!! Will this get thrown out of court do you think? Feedback would be grateful….thanks
Question Author
When i was arrested and waiting for transport to take me back to the police station the officer did ask me if i had been arrested for this kind of thing before i.e taxi touting…to which i replied NO. He then said in that case you will probably get a caution etc..before asking me to sign a prepared statement in the back of my car while handcuffed. I refused to do this. This happened at 3.20am! i was returning home from a gig in central london which my cousin was performing at. I only stopped to get food from Macdonald in corner of Oxford street junction with t.ct rd when this incident occurred. The Macdonald’s unknown to me was not a 24hrs one but one that closed at 3am! i was arrested at about 3.20am. Also when we went back to the station the officer who arrested me was not authorised to use LIVESCAN. The duty Sergent told him everyone who works for met police is authorised to use it and that he was going to put him on the system in due course. In the meantime he was to use a fellow officers i.d to log into the system. Another thing i should mention is that while this officer was asking me for directions there was no other police officer around, so its his version of events against mine. The one thing i managed to was get him to admit about the money and the fact he claimed to have been lost on tape which i knew would be the only thing that could determine whether i was touting or not. I do feel disappointed. I appreciate touts are a problem. Indeed since my arrest i learnt that whole area around charing x rd and Shaftesbury ave has a touting problem which if im honest ive never really noticed. After the officer turned off the interview tape he literally turned colour, huffing and puffing. I think he realised about the money, as well as the lost story he claimed was now on tape. Im surprised he still charged me literally 5/6 minutes after interview. They placed me in a cell for no more than 4/5 minutes when he came back and took me to desk sergent and charged me.
19:01 Wed 29th Sep 2010

No Change At Number One New Change

At first glance it looks like a big blob next to one of the capital’s most elegant landmarks. Seen from the back, it comes close to resembling the architect’s inspiration: a US stealth bomber.

But regardless of what it looks like, it now seems we the Taxi trade will be the big losers once again because the City of London have not relocated the rank on Cheapside to the main entrance on New Change.

The City of London no longer attend ranks meetings and seem to be happy with touts outside most late night venues in the square mile, we at the LCDC just feel that the City of London Police are losing control or just not interested in protecting the travelling public



New service launched to help smokers quit 

We find it amazing that when a tout is nicked and if and only if, it gets to court they are let off with a silly fine,and lets not talk about if a clip board Johnnie is nicked  touting outside a venue in London they are let off scot free by  the crown prosecution service (CPS).

This just goes to show that judges do not understand or dont have the power to give touts tougher sentences, if this is the case then Transport For London (TFL) must push for tougher prison sentences and all cars to be scraped, no matter who the car belongs to.

So do Safer Transport Command (STC) have to nick a tout with a snout to get a result in court.

 A HUNTINGDON taxi driver has been fined more than £1,500 for smoking in his cab.

In the first prosecution of its kind since the smoking ban was introduced, Huntingdonshire District Council brought criminal proceedings against cabbie Simon Meeke.

Meeke, who works for well-known local firm Steve’s Taxis, pleaded guilty to smoking in a smoke-free vehicle at Huntingdon Magistrates Court on Wednesday, August 11.

The court heard how Meeke, of Bliss Close, was seen by an environmental health officer on January 7 smoking in his vehicle outside the HDC’s Pathfinder House headquarters in St Mary’s Street, Huntingdon. He was approached by the officer, who asked him to put out his cigarette. He was also asked to provide his name and address, which he refused to do.

Having obtained Meeke’s details from his employers, the council served him with a fixed penalty notice, which he failed to pay within the specified time despite being given an extension.

During the court hearing, Vicki Stevens, prosecuting on behalf of the council, said: “Simon Meeke was seen smoking in his taxi, in contravention of the Health Act 2006, whilst parked outside the council’s offices. He was approached by an environmental health officer and asked for his name and address, which he failed to provide.”

Miss Stevens added that he had already been given written warnings after smoking in his taxi on a previous occasion.

As well as pleading guilty to smoking in a smoke-free vehicle, Meeke pleaded guilty to obstruction for failing to provide his name and address. He was fined a total of £1,524.62, comprising £150 for each offence and the council’s costs.

Councillor Andrew Hansard, whose executive responsibilities include environmental health, said: “The council is committed to protecting the health of the local community and persistent and flagrant breaches of public health legislation will not be tolerated. By smoking in his taxi, Mr Meeke chose not only to break the law but denied his customers their rights to travel in a smoke-free vehicle. Unfortunately, in this case, earlier written warnings did not have the desired effect and his refusal to pay a fixed penalty notice meant that the council had no choice other than to take the matter before the court.”

Catherine Bell Tuesday, 24 August, 2010


Look’s like Chief Inspector Chinn of Safer Transport command (STC) has now been briefed better this time on what to say in regards to whats a taxi, and whats a Private Hire Car
(MINICAB) ,than she did on radio when reporting on the rise in sexual assault in the capital.
But  take a close look at the taxi in the back ground looks like Camden Council the robbers are at it again, giving out parking tickets to Taxi drivers trying to take a quick break in the Russell sq green hut.

Or have the Keystone Cops put a leaflet about safer travel on the windscreen of a Taxi, this one is a tough call but you just never know.

100 arrests as police crack down on illegal cabs

This is a TFL press release.

legal cab drivers caught red handed as Safer Transport Command officers continue to tackle touting in the capital.

The Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) Cab Enforcement Unit, part of the Transport for London (TfL) funded Safer Transport Command (STC), made more than 100 arrests as fresher’s weeks got underway across the capital a month ago.

As part of the Operation Safer Travel at Night (STaN), officers from the Cab Enforcement Unit, Safer Transport Teams and TfL, increased night-time patrols over three weekends. These took place between 23 September and 9 October to deter, detect and apprehend illegal cab drivers, also known as touts, and to help people get home safely. This operation coincided with the STaN marketing campaign, which aims to make people, in particular young women travelling at night, aware of the dangers of using unbooked minicabs picked up off the street.

Officers tackled touting involving both licensed and unlicensed drivers in student areas across London, successfully deterring and arresting illegal cab drivers, and acquiring valuable intelligence.

The operation covered every borough in the capital, as the Cab Enforcement and Safer Transport Teams engaged with thousands of Londoners, and in particular students. The officers provided safer travel information and encouraged them to book minicabs as well as reminding them that only black cabs can be stopped and picked up off the street without being booked.

To support the enforcement and in advance of the darker and colder nights ahead, the MPS and TfL have also put together a short YouTube video, providing safer travel information for Londoners. For tips on making sure your minicab is legal and keeping safe visit

Chief Superintendent Royle, Safer Transport Command, said: “Unbooked minicabs are uninsured for carrying passengers and not only do they undermine the legitimate cab trade but are a danger of the capital’s night life.

“The Safer Transport Command regularly carries out major operations to tackle touting and this increased enforcement activity was to remind students, particularly those new to London, about the dangers of getting into unbooked minicabs.

“The safety of the public is paramount and I would advise anyone not to get into any minicab that they have not booked and always book it through a licensed operator.”

Steve Burton, TfL’s Director of Community Safety, Enforcement and Policing, said: “These operations are a priority for us and these arrests should serve as a clear reminder to touts that the Safer Transport Command is out there and will take action.

“However as part of our efforts to crackdown on illegal cab activity we also need Londoners to stop taking unbooked minicabs and remember that only black cabs can be hailed in the street or picked up at a rank without booking.”


Taxi. The meter is running and the Chinese are ready to do a complete U-turn and take control of Manganese Bronze.

Shares of the black cab manufacturer were unchanged in the rank at 31.25p. But whispers suggest 20 per cent-shareholder Geely, China’s largest privately-owned carmaker and owner of Volvo Cars, is on the verge of paying around 35p a share in cash to take control of the Coventry-based company.

Geely apparently wants to tie up a deal before Prime Minister David Cameron visits China next month to meet president Hu Jintao.

 Highly profitable: Manganese Bronze started to produce TX4 cab in China at its joint venture, LTI Shanghai

Geely in August decided not to proceed with a proposed placing and cash injection of £74million, or 70p a share, which would have given it a controlling 51per cent shareholding.

It now holds all the aces and is able to return with an offer at a much-reduced price which other major shareholders of Manganese Bronze are happy to say yes to.

    The plan is apparently for Geely to keep MB’s quote on the London Stock Exchange and to invest millions in the group’s Coventry site, which has produced more than 100,000 black cabs over the past 45 years. Annual production has averaged between 2000 and 2500 units per year through the past decade.

Manganese Bronze incurred a £7.3million loss in 2009, a year dominated by weak UK volumes and lower margins which came under relentless pressure. But the group did start production of the TX4 cab in China at its joint venture, LTI Shanghai, and this has proved highly profitable.

Manganese Bronze has been in reverse for too long and with Chinese cash it should now be able to quickly return to profit and get the share price back trading above £1

Story taken form the mail online

Respect On The Road


Watch the LCDC Chairman Grant Davis Interview members of the public to discuss the lack of respect on the road by other road users.
AXA Car Insurance have launched a campaign to bring courtesy and respect back to the roads.
Watch out for AXA’s ‘Respect the Road’ Cab Cam

With greater numbers of us considering cycling with the advent of the Cycle Hire scheme but with traffic showing no signs of abating, respect on the road is a real concern. Boris Biking doesn’t demand a helmet and with rapid expansion, there will be more and more riders who aren’t sure of the roads and haven’t properly cycled since their teeny BMX days. Tension between cyclists and motorists is a perennial issue, let alone tension between motorists on our busy streets. Seeking to find out what Londoners think about road rage and ways to change motorists’ behaviour, AXA sent out their ‘Cab Cam’ and got them chatting from the back seat.